Fyrehyde hates Samurai Jack

[22:13] < poinko > you gotta admit though, some animation houses aren't helping the situation
[22:13] < poinko > remember da boom crew
[22:13] < poinko > god that was horrible
[22:13] < TheDoctor > I can only vaguely recall that
[22:13] < poinko > lucky you
[22:14] < poinko > and then a lot of the stuff that starts out halfway decent gets screwed over by the network
[22:14] < TheDoctor > I think I blocked most of it out
[22:14] < poinko > like angry beavers
[22:14] < poinko > and to a certain extent, invader zim
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[22:14] < poinko > hey randal
[22:14] < poinko > how's that torrent
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[22:15] < FyreHyde > don't forget samurai jack
[22:15] < FyreHyde > that animation was awful too
[22:15] < TheDoctor > "Da Boom Crew is a kids television series. The show premiered on Kids' WB. It garnered the network’s worst ever 11:30 am debut for boys 6-11, females 9-14 and males 9-14. In the US the show was cancelled after airing 4 episodes"
[22:15] < TheDoctor > HAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[22:15] < FyreHyde > but for some reason it is regarded as being great
[22:15] < TheDoctor > …
[22:15] < Randal > it finished before i left nebraska
[22:16] < Blues > we all hate you fyre
[22:16] < FyreHyde > what?
[22:16] < poinko > wait, samurai jack was pretty awesome
[22:16] < FyreHyde > IT SUCKS
[22:16] < FyreHyde > SAMURAI JACK IS STUPID DERIVATIVE TRIPE
[22:16] < FyreHyde > FUCKING WRITE A DIALOGUE FOR YOUR SHOW
[22:16] < poinko > it's not every cartoon where a samurai can be standing on a rbidge facing a giant scotsman the entire episode and still have it be enjoyable
[22:17] * Randal changes fyre's diaper
[22:17] < FyreHyde > WE HAVE MANAGED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO ADD AUDIO TO THE GODDAMN PICTURE
[22:17] < Randal > hmm. still cranky
[22:17] < FyreHyde > WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF "TALKIES"
[22:17] < TheDoctor > …
[22:17] * Randal makes fyre a bottle
[22:17] * Blues smashes a bottle over fyres head
[22:18] < MunAFK > I hate samurai jack too
[22:18] < poinko > you must be playing with us, fyre
[22:18] < poinko > i mean
[22:18] * Randal reminds himself never to ask Blues to babysit
[22:18] < poinko > i can understand some people not really liking samurai jack
[22:18] < poinko > but it wasn't bad by any stretch of the imagination
[22:18] < FyreHyde > it's like watching moving abstract art
[22:19] < TheDoctor > …
[22:19] < FyreHyde > with no story or picture to help me through the pain
[22:19] < FyreHyde > dialogue*
[22:19] < poinko > but the story was him trying to get back
[22:19] < poinko > back to the past
[22:19] < poinko > samurai jack!
[22:19] < Randal > i think doc is doing his impression of jack
[22:19] < TheDoctor > no, I'm just barely containing a seething rage.
[22:20] < Randal > at?
[22:20] < TheDoctor > fyre.
[22:20] < Randal > fyre?
[22:20] < Randal > for being a moron?
[22:20] < TheDoctor > yes
[22:20] * Blues holds jebus back
[22:20] < Blues > he's not worth it man
[22:20] < FyreHyde > whatever man
[22:21] < Randal > who was endorsing "da boom crew"?
[22:22] < FyreHyde > you.
[22:22] < FyreHyde > you were.
[22:22] < FyreHyde > shame on you.
[22:22] < Randal > sort of impossible, seeing as the first i heard of it was when doc pasted that report about it.
[22:23] < TheDoctor > poinko brought it up as an example of total shit on television
[22:23] < TheDoctor > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Da_Boom_Crew&oldid=30607403
[22:23] < TheDoctor > this is hilarious
[22:23] < TheDoctor > as the show was cancelled after 4 episodes
[22:23] < FyreHyde > do they still make power rangers?
[22:25] < TheDoctor > nobody is talking to you anymore, fyre
[22:25] < FyreHyde > "These orphans from Earth soon find themselves zipping through space on a quest to find their missing game cartridges"
[22:25] < FyreHyde > there is no part of that sentence I don't love.
[22:25] < FyreHyde > heheh
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[22:26] <PiousKnob> hmmm
[22:26] <PiousKnob> guess chanserv dont like it either
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[22:27] < poinko > :B
[22:28] < TheDoctor > :3
[22:28] < FyreHyde > :&
[22:29] < TheDoctor > shut up, fyre
[22:30] < FyreHyde > you
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[22:31] < Blues > we must all turn our backs on fyre, except for muntron cos he was in on the whole hating thing
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[22:31] < FyreHyde > whatever man
[22:32] < Randal > oh? i thought he was just being nice to fyre because nobody else was agreeing with him
[22:32] < FyreHyde > I've never seen even a single redeeming quality of that show.
[22:32] < FyreHyde > everybody likes it
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[22:32] < FyreHyde > everybody acts like it's groundbreakingly different and awesome
[22:33] < FyreHyde > i just see a lot of white backgrounds and garbled cave drawings flashing in primary colors
[22:33] < FyreHyde > maybe one of these days
[22:33] < FyreHyde > I'll sit down and talk to someone about why they think it's a worthwhile show
[22:33] < FyreHyde > but not today
[22:35] * Randal gets fyre Martin Mystery to go with his new Totally Spies dvd set
[22:35] < TheDoctor > fyre doesn't "get" TV shows unless everything is outright explained to him every three minutes
[22:35] < FyreHyde > wtf is totally spies
[22:36] < TheDoctor > you'd like it
[22:36] < FyreHyde > whatever man
[22:36] < FyreHyde > don't need to insult me because I don't love that show
[22:36] < poinko > it just needs to say 'mako as the voice of the demon lord' and i'm sold, really
[22:36] < FyreHyde > I don't need shit explained to me
[22:36] < FyreHyde > it just needs to have something going on to begin with
[22:36] < TheDoctor > you seem to, considering some of your complaints.
[22:37] < FyreHyde > I can't just look at vague blobs of cel-shaded nonsense and pretend they mean something.
[22:37] < Randal > <FyreHyde> with no story or picture to help me through the pain
[22:37] < FyreHyde > *dialogue
[22:38] < FyreHyde > was the next line,
[22:38] < FyreHyde > wise-ass
[22:38] < poinko > did it really need dialogue, though?
[22:38] < Blues > "I am going to leap at you with my sword aku!"
[22:39] < Randal > i could never find it on tv, but when i could get it, i thought it was pretty neat.
[22:40] < Randal > cartoon network is horrible about that crap
[22:40] < FyreHyde > no
[22:40] < Randal > so is nick
[22:40] < FyreHyde > with the nonexistant story it had, I supposed it didn't need dialogue
[22:40] < FyreHyde > but seriously
[22:40] < FyreHyde > every time I watched it, I felt like it was just expecting me to interpret my own meaning from the images I was seeing
[22:40] < TheDoctor > …
[22:40] < TheDoctor > So you're upset
[22:41] < FyreHyde > is that a tree? maybe it's a pot. it could be a pillar!
[22:41] < TheDoctor > that you had to
[22:41] < TheDoctor > …
[22:41] < TheDoctor > okay, now you're just being stupid
[22:41] < poinko > television: let us think for you
[22:41] < FyreHyde > why is jack interested in it?
[22:41] < FyreHyde > we're not going to tell you
[22:41] < FyreHyde > because now: ninjas for no reason
[22:41] < FyreHyde > but will they fight in an interesting manner?
[22:41] < FyreHyde > no.
[22:42] < FyreHyde > they're going to do some weird stylized shit that merely SUGGESTS a fight
[22:42] < FyreHyde > people…have actually raved about the art on that show
[22:42] < FyreHyde > why does nobody understand that that is a problem
[22:43] < poinko > probably because it isn't
[22:43] < poinko > i'm more concerned with how britney spears still has legions of fans
[22:43] < Randal > or michael jackson
[22:43] < poinko > and sony as a corporation keeps making money even though they've done everything they can to shit on people
[22:45] < poinko > and how dubyah bush keeps jerking off with the oil and gas prices and no one seems to care much about it
[22:45] < FyreHyde > …
[22:45] < poinko > so i dont think it's a problem when about 100 people think 'man, that was a pretty good cartoon'
[22:46] < TheDoctor > Okay. Hammer time. Samurai Jack had an art style that mixed traditional western animation with edo period painting styles. Interestingly enough, this didn't end up being like the meiji era, where japan went through a heavy westernization. This was coupled with minimalist design conventions that applied to both the writing and art of the show. The idea was to give the viewer what they need to watch the show and actually get a sti
[22:46] < poinko > …that's just me, though
[22:48] < FyreHyde > i don't understand why these concepts are supposed to be exciting
[22:48] < FyreHyde > yay minimalism…
[22:48] < TheDoctor > the concepts aren't, the execution is.
[22:49] < poinko > well, it's better than watching reruns of naruto
[22:49] < TheDoctor > NOTHIN IS BETTER THAN NARUTO RERUNS FUCK YOU
[22:49] < poinko > a poke in the eye is better
[22:49] < poinko > it's less painful and doesn't last as long
[22:49] < TheDoctor > depends on how hard they poke, really
[22:50] < poinko > true
[22:50] < FyreHyde > and what their finger endurance is like.
[22:50] < TheDoctor > quiet you.
[22:52] < Blues > all I heard about samurai jack is that fyre cant stand noone talking for longer than 2 minutes and he cant tell the difference between things like pots, pillars and trees
[22:52] < TheDoctor > conclusion: fyre is both blind and retarded
[22:53] < FyreHyde > conclusion: jebus likes stupid shit and is pissed when I don't
[22:53] < TheDoctor > and possibly an immigrant
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[22:56] < Blues > I suspect fyre is french
[22:56] < FyreHyde > rattatouille is inspired by the french
[22:56] < Blues > who then moved to mexico and illegally snuck over the border
[22:56] < FyreHyde > and
[22:57] < poinko > wow, jebus went super sayain
[22:57] < FyreHyde > it's a thousand times better than art made by copying from a google image search of japanese scrolls
[22:57] < TheDoctor > ratatouille was a cliche at best and was only good because of the translucency models
[22:57] < FyreHyde > …
[22:57] < TheDoctor > lighting != movie
[22:58] < poinko > i'd like to go on record as saying the part i enjoyed about that movie most was the kitchen
[22:58] < FyreHyde > …
[22:58] < poinko > i dont know if it was the design of it or what
[22:58] < FyreHyde > yeah ya know
[22:58] < poinko > but it was a pretty neat background and layout
[22:59] < TheDoctor > the designs and everything were good
[22:59] < Randal > it was probably all the food, poinko
[22:59] < FyreHyde > the realistic textures, nearly flawless models, and fluid animation weren't…ya know…good or anything…
[22:59] < poinko > or like jebus said, maybe it was the lighting
[22:59] < poinko > it felt like a real place
[22:59] < TheDoctor > but the movie itself was predictable and bland
[22:59] < FyreHyde > yeah
[22:59] < Randal > i haven't seen it yet… nobody at my house wanted to
[22:59] < TheDoctor > "Wow! I've seen this 800 times in every other fucking movie ever"
[22:59] < FyreHyde > must have been that pesky…"story" thing getting in the way
[22:59] < poinko > well it has to be
[22:59] * Randal sets mode: +v FyreHyde
[22:59] < poinko > it's a kid's movie
[22:59] * Randal sets mode: -o FyreHyde
[22:59] < FyreHyde > it's always so predictable that there's going to be a "plot"
[23:00] < TheDoctor > …
[23:00] < poinko > we cant have kids thinking about stuff like chracter development and plot
[23:00] < poinko > it was a good movie, it just didnt have a deep story
[23:00] < Killersteak > watching the playboy thing, blues?
[23:01] < TheDoctor > it was mildly entertaining at best
[23:01] < TheDoctor > 6 out of 10
[23:01] < Blues > no, any good?
[23:01] < FyreHyde > no pixar movies have a deep story
[23:01] < FyreHyde > it's the genre
[23:01] < TheDoctor > …
[23:01] < TheDoctor > do you… know what a genre is?
[23:01] < Killersteak > eh, its got some nice chicks in it, im not really paying attention to what the doco is about though
[23:01] < FyreHyde > yes. I do.
[23:01] < TheDoctor > are you SURE?
[23:02] < poinko > which genre?
[23:02] < FyreHyde > I happen to think that 3d animations post-toy story have become a genre of their own
[23:02] * poinko googles 'genre' to make sure he has the right definition
[23:02] < FyreHyde > see: talking animals
[23:02] < TheDoctor > no, that's a medium
[23:02] < Randal > explain the incredibles then
[23:02] < poinko > so th eincredibles isn't a 3d movie
[23:02] < poinko > and beowulf isnt either
[23:03] < TheDoctor > 3d animation is no more a genre than fucking live action
[23:03] < poinko > nor is shrek, to a certain degree
[23:03] < FyreHyde > i'm not saying that, wiseass
[23:03] < FyreHyde > I'm saying pixar has created a genre
[23:03] < poinko > you know which genre i like
[23:03] < poinko > claymation
[23:03] < FyreHyde > every pixar movie fits into the pixar world
[23:03] < FyreHyde > every one of them is also an adventure movie
[23:04] < FyreHyde > slash comedy
[23:04] < TheDoctor > THOSE are genres, you chucklefuck.
[23:04] < FyreHyde > no shit
[23:04] < FyreHyde > really
[23:04] < FyreHyde > for fuck's sake dude
[23:04] < FyreHyde > get over it
[23:04] < FyreHyde > I hate samurai jack
[23:04] < poinko > i think you're really misusing the term 'genre'
[23:04] < Blues > that playboy thing was a waste of my time steak
[23:04] < TheDoctor > in fact, adventure-comedy has been a fucking genre for DECADES
[23:04] < MunAFK > I fucking hate samurai jack too
[23:04] < FyreHyde > …
[23:04] < FyreHyde > i'm so fucking sick of this
[23:05] < FyreHyde > you know i'm not an idiot
[23:05] < poinko > muntron is the bandwagoneer
[23:05] < Randal > i'd say since stories began, actually
[23:05] < TheDoctor > I used to think that
[23:05] * poinko gives muntron a medal
[23:05] < FyreHyde > quit picking apart everything i say so you can feel better
[23:05] < TheDoctor > now I'm not so sure
[23:05] < TheDoctor > dude
[23:05] < poinko > well, fyre
[23:05] < TheDoctor > I'm not the only one
[23:05] < FyreHyde > just because i hate that show
[23:05] < poinko > there's a difference between not liking samurai jack and not knowing what a genre is
[23:06] < FyreHyde > i know what a goddamn genre is
[23:06] < poinko > 'pixar movie' isn't a genre
[23:06] < FyreHyde > …
[23:06] < Killersteak > ……damnit muntron
[23:06] < poinko > thats like saying kurosawa movies are a genre
[23:06] < FyreHyde > have you seen a pixar horror film?
[23:06] < poinko > or spielberg movies are a genre
[23:06] < poinko > no, because pixar does comedy animated children's movies
[23:06] < FyreHyde > pixar movies follow a formula
[23:07] < poinko > that's the type of movies they do
[23:07] < TheDoctor > and that's the fucking problem
[23:07] < FyreHyde > they introduce you to characters
[23:07] < poinko > it's not a genre
[23:07] < FyreHyde > usually involve talking animals
[23:07] < poinko > it's a speciality
[23:07] < FyreHyde > the characters easily fill out dramatic foils
[23:07] < Killersteak > -__-
[23:07] * killersteak ignores fyre
[23:07] < poinko > disney movies have been doing those for years though
[23:07] < Randal > they may help define genres, but aren't a genre unto themselves
[23:07] < TheDoctor > yeah, but disney tried new things
[23:07] < FyreHyde > character behaviors are stylized
[23:07] < poinko > the only thing really different about pixar is they're cgi
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[23:07] < TheDoctor > in fact, for a good long while disney maintained it's lead by doing just that
[23:08] < TheDoctor > trying new things
[23:08] < poinko > so are fox and the hound, lion king and bambi their own genres?
[23:08] < poinko > that's pretty much the moral of any kid's movie though
[23:09] < Randal > and what with trying new things, i'm amazed it took them 80 years to come up with a black disney princess
[23:09] < TheDoctor > all pixar does is the equivalent of recasting the same movie and using a better camera each time
[23:09] < poinko > yeah until now all we had was briar rabbit
[23:09] < poinko > :D
[23:10] < Randal > don't forget the tar baby
[23:10] < poinko > of course
[23:11] < Randal > as in br(oth)er
[23:11] < Blues > zippedy doo da!
[23:11] < poinko > i thought it was cos he lived in a briar patch
[23:11] < Randal > nope
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[23:11] < poinko > disney lied to me
[23:11] < poinko > again
[23:11] < Randal > hi jurbas
[23:11] <Jurbas> hey
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[23:12] < Jurbas > alread?
[23:12] < Jurbas > normally it takes ages to change mode
[23:12] < TheDoctor > really?
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[23:12] < TheDoctor > there you go
[23:12] <Jurbas> i thought I might talk to u guys there's fuck all on TV
[23:12] <Jurbas> that's just mean Doc
[23:13] < poinko > there's not much else worth your time in here
[23:13] <Jurbas> what about ur hypocritical oath
[23:13] < poinko > yeah you hypocrite
[23:13] <Jurbas> i woulda gone hippo… oath but it's too cliched
[23:13] <Jurbas> even for me
[23:14] < poinko > man, fuck you guys, i coulda had this page done and upload a half hour ago
[23:14] < MunAFK > remember samurai jack?
[23:14] < MunAFK > yeah I still hate that show
[23:14] < poinko > heh
[23:14] <Jurbas> yea it kinda annoys me
[23:14] <Jurbas> he thinks too much
[23:14] < MunAFK > you see Fyre
[23:15] < MunAFK > the best way to state an opinion
[23:15] < MunAFK > is to just say it
[23:15] < MunAFK > and have no facts to back it up
[23:15] < MunAFK > and then stop talking entirely
[23:15] < MunAFK > thus rendering all others useless
[23:15] < Blues > and not make it look like you hate it cos lots of people like it
[23:15] < Randal > every time i read muntron's away name, my brain wants to see "Monk"
[23:17] <Jurbas> do any of you guys do superhero comics?
[23:17] <Jurbas> or story comics?
[23:18] < poinko > B)
[23:18] < poinko > i do both, actually
[23:18] <Jurbas> and poinko does?
[23:18] < poinko > i doubt he has
[23:18] <Jurbas> nope never heard of it
[23:18] < poinko > hey now, not liking samurai jack is ONE thing
[23:19] <Jurbas> are they both about music?
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